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The Elder of Vicksburg's avatar

this is totally interesting/excellent. big admirer of economic history like this. Makes a great argument for simply leaving people alone.

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ben's avatar

This caste seems like it has ethnic origins. Just looking at their bone structure, the Hutus and Tutsis remind me of the Hausa-Fulani of North-West Africa. With the more pastoral Fulani forming a ruling minority over the Hausa farmers.

Cattle rearers vs Farmers. The tale of civilization

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Muthomi Munyua's avatar

As an East African, I find it interesting that the Hutu and the Tutsi consider themselves as different tribes; considering the two speak the same language. In Kenya, tribe is largely defined by the language spoken. Once the language changes, even though they are mutually intelligible, that is a different tribe; think of the following tribes: Kikuyu, Embu, Mbeere and Meru in Kenya. They have similar cultural traditions, rites of passage, economic activities, political leanings, religion and so on, but are considered different tribes because of a slight shift in language. I think this concept underpins your point that socio-economic classes were racialised, but in essence, Hutu and Tutsi would be considered one tribe/people in Kenya.

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Yaw's avatar

Yes, socio-economic classes were racialised.

But nowadays, post Rwandan genocide, very few Rwandans call themselves Tutsi or Hutu, they just say they are Rwandan/Rwandanese. The Hutu/Tutsi distinction was of the past.

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Muthomi Munyua's avatar

Yes, I have noticed this change with the Rwandans I have met. In addition, they insist on the demonym "Rwandan" and not "Rwandese".

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Yaw's avatar

1) The capital, Kigali is very safe, but only an 1/8 of the population lives there.

2) Rwanda gets most of its weapons from America/EU, its military industrial complex (MIC) is mega tiny.

https://oec.world/en/profile/bilateral-product/military-weapons/reporter/rwa?utm_source=chatgpt.com

South Africa, Egypt, and Sudan pre-civil war had the biggest MIC, but even these countries mainly import their arms from the West or Russia.

In terms of military aid, Rwanda received $4M in 2022 from America, which is 8th highest amount in Sub-Saharan Africa. Here's another countries:

Somalia: $140M

South Sudan: $16M

Chad: $11M

Niger: $11M

Kenya: $9M

Congo: $4.6M

Uganda: $4.5M

https://foreignassistance.gov

3) Hutu and Tutsi ethnicities solidiifed by the 1950s. By then the Hutu elite were literate and could propagandize their anti Tutsi rhetoric

4) In India there's Brahmins (teachers/priests), Kshatriyas: (warriors/rulers), Vaishyas(traders) as castes but ethnic wise there's Punjabis, Marathis, Gujaratis, and Bengalis and more

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